{"id":18822,"date":"2019-02-15T08:00:07","date_gmt":"2019-02-15T16:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/community.nrs.com\/?p=18822"},"modified":"2021-01-27T12:49:20","modified_gmt":"2021-01-27T20:49:20","slug":"the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/","title":{"rendered":"The River Permit Lottery Part II: The Other One"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s all over but the crying\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The last of your permit applications come back with a \u201csorry to inform you but you did not win\u201d notification. It\u2019s February, the world is frozen, devoid of hope. You stare at your computer screen. Your glacial dial-up Internet connection means that cancellations (the prize of the quick) are impossible. You have two options: you can wring your hands in despair or you can put them to work applying for the <em>Other Lottery<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18832\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171655\/MultiDay-Cliche-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1800\" height=\"1200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171655\/MultiDay-Cliche-1.jpg 1800w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171655\/MultiDay-Cliche-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171655\/MultiDay-Cliche-1-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171655\/MultiDay-Cliche-1-1000x667.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1800px) 100vw, 1800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>While The <em>Other Lottery<\/em> is not an official lottery, there are no tickets or random number drawings, there is an element of chance and you can win something\u2014that \u201csomething\u201d being a spot on someone else\u2019s multiday river trip.<\/p>\n<p>All the <em>Other Lottery<\/em> requires is access to an Internet multiday river trip forum on which you can solicit a trip and troll posts from people offering open spots. And with the help of a few simple rules, you can win the <em>Other Lottery <\/em>with a frequency that will make you wonder why you even bother playing the odds in the actual lottery.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Warning:<\/strong> Don\u2019t stop playing the actual lottery (see Rule #8).<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-18822 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/progression-of-rejection-1\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-18847\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-768x766.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-1000x998.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171641\/Progression-of-Rejection-1-1.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<figcaption class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-18847'>\n\t\t\t\tPhotos: Glenn Martin \n\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/progression-of-rejection-2-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-768x770.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-998x1000.jpg 998w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171640\/Progression-of-Rejection-2.jpg 1297w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/progression-of-rejection-3\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-1000x1000.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171638\/Progression-of-Rejection-3.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><strong>Rule #1 Don\u2019t Start Too Early.\u00a0<\/strong><span style=\"font-family: var(--font-body, 'Roboto'); background-color: var(--background-color, #ffffff);\">You are desperate but you don\u2019t want to appear that way. Everybody believes they have friends, and in the rosy afterglow of winning some coveted permit, everybody believes their friends are \u201cin.\u201d But, inevitably, some of them will be \u201cout\u201d as the launch date approaches, which might make a spot for you. I recommend waiting about a month from your preferred date to begin any serious solicitation campaign. This sends the message that you\u2019re thinking about boating, but that isn\u2019t all you think about. It also <\/span>says<span style=\"font-family: var(--font-body, 'Roboto'); background-color: var(--background-color, #ffffff);\"> you\u2019re laid back, but not like last-minute laid back.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Warning:<\/strong> In the same vein that you shouldn\u2019t start looking too early, red flags should pop up when you spot a post for an opening that\u2019s many months away from the actual launch date. This person may not have any friends and there could be a reason for that. They may want some money up front (I wouldn\u2019t send them any). Or, they may just be anticipating a certain amount of flakiness. In any case, a lot of miscommunication can happen over a few months.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, ignore these risks at your own peril\u2014I certainly have. This resulted in one of the finest disasters of my life (see Dirtbag Diaries Episode #93 \u201cA Slosh in the Bucket.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18840\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171645\/The-Other-Lottery-Struggle.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2000\" height=\"1334\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171645\/The-Other-Lottery-Struggle.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171645\/The-Other-Lottery-Struggle-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171645\/The-Other-Lottery-Struggle-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171645\/The-Other-Lottery-Struggle-1000x667.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2000px) 100vw, 2000px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rule #2 Sell Your Best Self\u00a0<\/strong>Ask yourself, why should anybody invite you? Do you have a lot of group gear? Do you have a large raft with some space for gear or people? A motor to push through some still water? List your willingness to contribute gear. But also list your willingness to contribute anything. Remember, they\u2019re inviting you, not just your gear. Can you cook? How about row? Can you save somebody in an emergency? List your skills. But only if you actually have them. A friend of mine is going on an <em>Other Lottery <\/em>Grand Canyon trip with someone who has informed the group how excited he is to bring his guitar that he\u2019s just learning how to play. Just don\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rule #3 Be Flexible with Dates\u00a0<\/strong>It should go without saying that you don\u2019t get to pick your dates in this <em>Other Lottery<\/em>, so you have to be flexible. You could put dates that would work for you on your post, but this will reduce your chances of getting an invite to about\u2026 zero. And as for posts looking for additional boaters, by their very nature, they are often last-minute offers. Also, think outside the peak season. Spring and fall can be great times to boat. My wife and I are teachers so we have about three months of flexibility. If you aren\u2019t a teacher and you\u2019re really serious about getting on a trip, you might consider quitting your job or becoming the boss.<\/p>\n<div id='gallery-2' class='gallery galleryid-18822 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/the-other-lottery-skills-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171647\/The-Other-Lottery-Skills-2-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171647\/The-Other-Lottery-Skills-2-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171647\/The-Other-Lottery-Skills-2-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171647\/The-Other-Lottery-Skills-2-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171647\/The-Other-Lottery-Skills-2-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/multiday-skills-1-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171654\/MultiDay-Skills-1-1-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171654\/MultiDay-Skills-1-1-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171654\/MultiDay-Skills-1-1-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171654\/MultiDay-Skills-1-1-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171654\/MultiDay-Skills-1-1-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/the-other-lottery-guitars\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171649\/The-Other-Lottery-Guitars-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171649\/The-Other-Lottery-Guitars-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171649\/The-Other-Lottery-Guitars-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171649\/The-Other-Lottery-Guitars-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171649\/The-Other-Lottery-Guitars-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><strong>Rule #4 Be Flexible with Trip Styles\u00a0<\/strong>This rule spans a few topics. Only participate in this <em>Other Lottery<\/em> if you can scrap your conception of an ideal trip. If you can\u2019t, the <em>Other Lottery<\/em> is not a good option for you. This will not be your trip. You need to set your expectation at \u201cbeing on a river.\u201d Beyond even the standard group variations of kitchen duties and morning launch times, in order to win the <em>Other Lottery <\/em>with some frequency, you need to be okay with the \u201cnorms\u201d of the group, even if they aren\u2019t very normal. I\u2019ve been on trips where praying before meals was expected, and I\u2019ve been on trips that have ended early because the booze ran out. I\u2019ve boated with families and I\u2019ve boated with criminals\u2014I\u2019ve enjoyed them all.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rule #5 More is not necessarily Merrier\u00a0<\/strong><span style=\"font-family: var(--font-body, 'Roboto'); background-color: var(--background-color, #ffffff);\">Again, remember, this is not your trip and so you should not ask to invite all of your friends. In my experience, a +1 is not usually a problem, especially if that +1 is a spouse or partner. Certainly, never ask for more guests than your own boat can hold. Family trips are the exception to this rule. When people look for other families to join them, what they are really looking for is more kids. Children\u2019s enjoyment of a river trip is often in proportion to the number of other kids along. Go ahead, invite the neighbor kids. This won\u2019t be a problem.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id='gallery-3' class='gallery galleryid-18822 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-thumbnail'><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/the-other-lottery-strangeness\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171646\/The-Other-Lottery-Strangeness-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171646\/The-Other-Lottery-Strangeness-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171646\/The-Other-Lottery-Strangeness-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171646\/The-Other-Lottery-Strangeness-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171646\/The-Other-Lottery-Strangeness-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/begging-paddler_glenn-martin-2\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-1000x1000.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171657\/Begging-Paddler_Glenn-Martin-1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure><figure class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<div class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/community.nrs.com\/duct-tape\/2019\/02\/15\/the-river-permit-lottery-part-ii-the-other-one\/the-other-lottery-weirdos\/'><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171643\/The-Other-Lottery-Weirdos-100x100.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171643\/The-Other-Lottery-Weirdos-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171643\/The-Other-Lottery-Weirdos-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171643\/The-Other-Lottery-Weirdos-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171643\/The-Other-Lottery-Weirdos-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 100px) 100vw, 100px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/div><\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p><strong>Rule #6 Words Matter\u00a0<\/strong>This is more of an advanced technique (you may not be ready for this). While it\u2019s true that beggars can\u2019t be choosers, you can improve your odds for a certain type of river trip by choosing your words carefully. If I\u2019m begging a family trip, I mention I\u2019m a teacher. If I\u2019m looking for a more mature trip, I leave that out. Without going into a line-by-line explication of Internet posts, I would generally say that the subtext of people\u2019s words matters more than the surface meaning. In river terms the unseen, underwater features, create the visible ones. Avoid people who can\u2019t read irony, these people probably can\u2019t read rivers either. (Okay, that wasn\u2019t fair.) At any rate, camp conversations may be dry. Join at your own risk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rule #7 The More You Play the Other Lottery the More You Win\u00a0<\/strong>You win the <em>Other Lottery <\/em>by getting on a river trip when you struck out on your actual lottery permit applications, but you also win by meeting new people who love what you love. And these people will often show you some love next permit season if they happen to pick up a permit. Consider it a win-win-win situation.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18836\" src=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171650\/The-Other-Lottery-Family-Boating.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1800\" height=\"1202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171650\/The-Other-Lottery-Family-Boating.jpg 1800w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171650\/The-Other-Lottery-Family-Boating-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171650\/The-Other-Lottery-Family-Boating-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d2kl15j267vxtq.cloudfront.net\/duct-tape\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/31171650\/The-Other-Lottery-Family-Boating-1000x668.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1800px) 100vw, 1800px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rule #8 Don\u2019t Stop Applying to the Actual Lottery\u00a0<\/strong>While it\u2019s true that the actually lottery is probably a tax for people who are bad at math, your application fee does some good. Like it or not, the river lottery permit system protects our rivers, and your fees go into making sure that system remains solvent. Besides concrete boat launches and public bathrooms aren\u2019t so bad. So keep donating. Just don\u2019t expect to win.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s all over but the crying\u2026 The last of your permit applications come back with a \u201csorry to inform you but you did not win\u201d&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":47972,"featured_media":18840,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[341],"tags":[9,477,316,33],"class_list":["post-18822","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pro-tips","tag-how-to","tag-multiday-trip","tag-rafting","tag-whitewater-kayaking","post-grid"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>The River Permit Lottery Part II: The Other One | Duct Tape Diaries | NRS<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"While the Other Lottery isn&#039;t an official one, there 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